11:01:04 From Dane To Everyone: Dane St. Louis, mo 11:01:07 From John Seager To Everyone: John Seager Pennsylvania 11:01:10 From Scott D To Everyone: Scott D, Minneapolis, MN 11:01:13 From Marian Starkey (she/her) To All Panelists: Marian, joining from Falmouth, Maine 11:01:14 From Mike Jabot To Everyone: Mike Fredonia NY 11:01:14 From Elaine G To Everyone: Elaine G, Modesto CALIF, long time PetNetter. 11:01:21 From Brad B To Everyone: Brad B Washington State 11:01:21 From Richard S To Everyone: Richard from Phoenix 11:01:22 From Andy A To Everyone: Andy A, highland Park,IL 11:01:22 From Stephen T To Everyone: Steve Rochester MN 11:01:23 From Lila G To Everyone: Lila, Colorado 11:01:27 From Laurel F To Everyone: Laurel Foot & Gary N from Vermont 11:01:27 From Jennifer Lynaugh To Everyone: Hi! Jenn from San Diego! It's a pleasure having you today Dr. Ibbotson! :-) 11:01:30 From Rob C To Everyone: Interesting topic! Rob in Hawaii 11:01:31 From Amy S To Everyone: Amy from SF 11:01:32 From Karen T To Everyone: Karen T from Kalamazoo Mi 11:01:33 From Philip L To Everyone: Phil L MA 11:01:35 From Ellen B To Everyone: Ellen B, she/they, stolen Piscataway land now called Baltimore, MD 11:01:36 From Antony S To Everyone: Tony - Sacramento 11:01:37 From Jana P To Everyone: Jana P, Texas 11:01:38 From Jon L To Everyone: Jon, Connecticut 11:01:38 From Herb B To Everyone: Herb B, from Seattle 11:01:43 From Heidi M To Everyone: Heidi M Colorado 11:01:44 From Lawrence L To Everyone: Woodside, CA\ 11:01:44 From Dwight R To Everyone: Redmond Washington 11:01:45 From Prof. Dr. Donald Huisingh To All Panelists: Prof. Donald Huisingh. Knoxville, TN 11:01:45 From Joanna L To Everyone: Joanna L, the home of taxation without representation, Washington, DC 11:01:48 From Margaret H To Everyone: Issaquah, Washington 11:01:51 From Jeremy B To Everyone: Jeremy, Indiana 11:01:51 From John C To Everyone: John from Lake Oswego, OR 11:01:51 From Halina P To Everyone: Halina P, Hamden CT 11:01:51 From Amos S To Everyone: Amos S., Kentucky 11:01:56 From Beth G To Everyone: Beth G Georgia 11:01:59 From Donald S To Everyone: Fon in Des Moines 11:02:00 From Eugene F To Everyone: Gene F Santa Fe NM 11:02:05 From Betsy L To Everyone: hello everybody Betsy from Battlement Mesa, CO 11:02:09 From Pirkko B To Everyone: Pirkko 11:02:13 From Jack A To Everyone: Jack A kansas 11:02:25 From Frank K To Everyone: Frank K Seattle WA 11:02:27 From Shauna Scherer To Everyone: Shauna, Arkansas 11:02:39 From Prof. Dr. Donald Huisingh To Everyone: Donald Huisingh. Knoxville, TN 11:02:46 From Kathryn T To Everyone: Hello from Pismo Beach, CA 11:02:46 From Peter Said To Everyone: Peter F. Said - Rancho Cucamonga, CA 11:03:10 From Julian P. Donahue To Everyone: Good morning from the Sonoran Desert! 11:03:37 From Marc I To Everyone: Marc I Planet Earth /Marylan 11:11:52 From Moses S To Everyone: please can you share all this information in form of a PDF or word 11:13:19 From Marian Starkey (she/her): the slides and presentation recording will be on our website within a few days! 11:15:38 From Betsy L To Everyone: How old is the Earth? 11:16:09 From jane r To Everyone: Earth is about 4 billion years old, according to a presentation I went to last week 11:16:23 From John E To Everyone: 6000 years :) 11:20:09 From Dwight R To Everyone: GDP includes bombs 11:21:02 From Joanna L To Everyone: You say we're not starving in the US that's largely true, but not in the whole world. 11:22:02 From Ellen B To Everyone: Thank you Joanna, and even in the US way too many are food insecure. 11:23:20 From Joanna L To Everyone: Someone should tell the Taliban about this. 11:23:43 From John E To Everyone: Taliban knows about it -- and wants to promote population growth by oppressing women. 11:23:57 From John E To Everyone: more cannon fodder 11:24:03 From medea b To Everyone: The Taliban. And certain elected officials… 11:24:17 From John E To Everyone: yup 11:24:29 From J J To Everyone: Male chicks are legally macerated within hours of birth. 11:24:54 From John E To Everyone: Why can't they gender-select chickens at fertilization to avoid that? 11:25:38 From Dwight R To Everyone: or male chicks are raised for a few months and then butchered for food 11:25:49 From J J To Everyone: We have selectively bred chickens to grow so quickly that they collapse under their own weight. 11:26:07 From medea b To Everyone: NYT’s study of water shortages in today’s edition is germane here-has been going on for decades here and across the world. Might be nature’s revenge on the ‘human experiment.’ 11:26:32 From Ellen B To Everyone: Yes MAJOR food "distribution" problems. 11:26:32 From Rob C To Everyone: ‘Healthy’ food is really expensive though! 11:26:49 From J J To Everyone: Animal agriculture is destroying us. Look at the size of these facilities using Google Earth. 11:27:05 From John E To Everyone: I don't know -- when I buy lots of produce, my grocery bill at checkout is lower than with processed foods. 11:27:15 From medea b To Everyone: Agree with you there. 11:27:41 From J J To Everyone: Healthy food is not subsidized. Animal products are government subsidized, making the product artificially cheap. 11:27:57 From John E To Everyone: Point well taken. He just mentioned that. :) 11:28:19 From Ellen B To Everyone: Interesting. Gotta go. A meeting moved for the holiday weekend. Sorry. 11:28:28 From John E To Everyone: oops he said substitutes instead of subsidies 11:28:52 From John E To Everyone: Who needs "meat substitutes"? Why not eat real legumes? 11:29:18 From keidth f To Everyone: Pay women NOT to have more than one child 11:29:36 From Joanna L To Everyone: NPR just did a fascinating story about growing meat without raising and slaughtering animals. 11:29:43 From Byron R To Everyone: The problem with everyone planting the same crops is disease, as has happened in the past. 11:30:13 From John E To Everyone: monoculture = scourge true 11:32:36 From Rob C To Everyone: Can I add to that list: feral hogs! 11:32:45 From Dane K To Everyone: Animals not adapting quickly enough? I doubt humans will be able to adapt as quickly as needed with climate change. 11:33:05 From Valerie B To Everyone: Introducing wolves (predator) back in to Yellowstone has done an incredible job of bringing back a healthy ecosystem to the area. 11:35:28 From Rob C To Everyone: Fascinating chart! Animals not so much. What an outsized impact we humans are having!! 11:36:42 From Margaret Hall : Sorry I have another appointment now. I hope that a recording of this presentation will become available. thank you for selecting this topic. 11:36:56 From Marian Starkey (she/her) To Everyone: it will be! thanks for joining us :) 11:40:37 From J J To Everyone: Industrial animal agriculture is massively cruel, but ag-gag laws largely prevent the public from seeing this. 11:41:02 From nina s To Everyone: how about habitat loss that comes with increasing human population? 11:41:14 From nina s To Everyone: habitat for wild animals I mean 11:41:19 From Rob C To Everyone: Should we encourage (change policies) to accept more immigration? 11:41:26 From J J To Everyone: Under the guise of "biosecurity", whistleblowers are prosecuted. 11:41:42 From John E To Everyone: meat is murder 11:41:47 From Population Connection To Everyone: We need to lower fertility rates through VOLUNTARY access to reproductive health care services. 11:41:50 From Patty M To Everyone: Humans are fishing out (depleting fish stocks) all along the shorelines of Earth - when the fish stocks are gone, there will be widespread starvation....what about this situation? 11:42:06 From John E To Everyone: eat lionfish 11:43:00 From John E To Everyone: Atlantic lionfish are an ecological disaster -- eat 'em 11:43:54 From Rob C To Everyone: What is our ethical responsibility for encouraging ‘natural’ diversity? 11:44:00 From Dwight R To Everyone: Has improved survivability caused more stupid humans to survive? 11:44:23 From Amy S To All Panelists: Does GDP per capita data have an adjustment for inflation? 11:44:32 From Elaine W To Everyone: Hope you will send this recording to everyone. 11:44:33 From John E To Everyone: Please also address the impact of delaying childbirth by a few years, even for a given birthrate. 11:44:45 From Elaine W To Everyone: Thank you 11:45:18 From Joanna L To Everyone: Yes, please send the recording and the slide show! It was all fascinating! 11:45:28 From Population Connection To Everyone: A recording of the presentation and responses to the unanswered questions will be shared next week! 11:45:33 From Betsy L To Everyone: I hope the professor will be willing to share his slides. 11:45:37 From Population Connection To Everyone: Along with the presentation slides too! 11:45:38 From J J To Everyone: Sounds like Asimov's "psychophysics" (in a good way). 11:49:51 From Dwight R To Everyone: Is our evolved immune system a significant factor in our higher survivability? 11:49:54 From J J To Everyone: We need to overcome our entrenched idea of human supremacy. 11:51:19 From Arnold B To Everyone: You need healthy soil to grow healthy food. 11:51:56 From Arthur K To Everyone: Engineers and scientists are great at solving technological problems but are guilty of creating massive environmental problems, which are hard to solve. 11:52:04 From Beth Grant To Everyone: the whole foundation of the natural world is native plants 11:52:05 From nina s To Everyone: agricultural soil for human food means less habitat for wild animals 11:52:21 From Lynne K To Everyone: Another request for the slides/recording. Lynne K 11:52:38 From nina s To Everyone: i guess species extinction didn't come up in this talk or did i miss it? 11:52:40 From Dwight R To Everyone: My vegetarian daughter says the artificial meat tastes so much like real meat, she does not like it. Learned aversion. 11:52:44 From John E To Everyone: Engineers and scientists are also great at solving environmental problems created by technology. 11:53:25 From Valerie B To Everyone: Our consumption of huge amounts of energy is warming our environment, causing us to demand even more (AC), affecting natural selection in the plant and animal world - what. where and they can continue to exist. 11:53:35 From Arnold B To Everyone: Less population will result in less environmental damage.l 11:53:37 From Rob C To Everyone: Techno-utopianists rejoice! We have a product for every problem (we create), for a price! 11:54:56 From Amos S To Everyone: Would be interesting to know more about the evolution of tree species. Also the development of associated tree pathogens, such as chestnut blight, a fungus moved by humans to North America. Much of the plant cover of the earth is forest. 11:55:08 From Dane K To Everyone: We need to overcome our entrenched idea of human exceptionalism that will get us out of this mess at the last minute. (We need to work on it well ahead of the last minute) 11:55:10 From Marc I To Everyone: I have good news about the survival of the fittest 11:55:28 From Herb B To Everyone: I guess the key question here is whether we humans are changing the global environment faster than even we can successfully adapt to. For example, see the NY Times article from today about the rates at which we are depleting groundwater in the US, which will ultimately limit our food production. 11:55:44 From Dwight R To Everyone: Whether AI is good or bad depends on how humans use AI, or maybe how AI uses AI. 11:55:49 From Arnold B To Everyone: Remember: that the vast increases in medical and health for humans have increased the human population 11:56:01 From jane r To Everyone: Elon Musk has 10 kids and plans to populate Mars. Hope he goes there and stays! 11:56:09 From Rob C To Everyone: Innovation or idiocracy? 11:56:13 From nina s To Everyone: yes jane 11:56:19 From Jana P To Everyone: Climate change kills off people, plants and animals. 11:56:24 From Population Connection To Everyone: Our thoughts on Elon Musk's harmful comments: https://populationconnection.org/press-releases/world-population-day-statement-elon-musk-is-wrong/ 11:57:03 From Joanna L To Everyone: Yes, if we stopped discriminating against each other and "throwing away" whole groups of people, we'd have the benefits of their brilliance. 11:57:10 From Arthur K To Everyone: I am not positive about endless human population growth. 11:57:33 From John E To Everyone: Human population growth is the ultimate Ponzi scheme. 11:57:49 From Natalie Widel To Everyone: We also published an entire magazine issue that covered the importance in investing in children! https://populationconnection.org/magazine/september-2021/ 11:57:53 From Joanna L To Everyone: We need to satisfy the current demand for birth control and then create more demand. 11:57:55 From J J To Everyone: People currently existing would clamor for a chance to go to Mars if given the opportunity. 11:57:58 From nina s To Everyone: yes, john, perfect analogy or metaphor or whatever 11:58:23 From Rob C To Everyone: 👍🏻 John 11:58:24 From Dane K To Everyone: AK I am positive. Human population will not grow endlessly. 11:58:46 From medea b To Everyone: Small is Beautiful—E.F. Schumacher. 1972. 11:58:49 From nina s To Everyone: dane, no not endlessly bec planet will not survive us 11:58:50 From jane r To Everyone: Elon just wants to sell more cars! 11:59:12 From Marc I To Everyone: Survival of the fittest for cooperation between species is twice as common as predator and prey.!!! 11:59:19 From Dane K To Everyone: NS True!!! 11:59:36 From Arthur K To Everyone: Even though Elon Musk can afford to raise his 10 children, he should not brag about it and is setting a bad example for others to follow. 11:59:42 From Dwight R To Everyone: A big positive is so many catholic people and countries using birth control 12:00:23 From J J To Everyone: A larger pandemic. 12:00:51 From Amos S To Everyone: Some believe that economic growth will level as population levels. (? !) 12:00:59 From Dane K To Everyone: Using more water than is being replaced... which is happening. 12:01:07 From Rob C To Everyone: Finally, an answer to encouraging natural diversity! 12:01:07 From Arthur K To Everyone: Humans are part of the natural environment. We are just another animal along with all the rest. 12:01:24 From Shauna Scherer To Everyone: Thanks so much! Very interesting presentation and conversation! 12:01:26 From Patty M To Everyone: Amazing discussion!! Thanks 12:01:40 From J J To Everyone: Thank you! 12:01:41 From Marian Starkey (she/her) To Everyone: https://som.yale.edu/sites/default/files/2022-10/The-End-of-Darwinism.pdf 12:01:44 From Betsy L To Everyone: Yea! Thank you! 12:02:11 From Joanna L To Everyone: Thanks so much! This was wonderful! 12:02:32 From Patty M To Everyone: Enable save the chat - please 12:02:36 From Laurel F To All Panelists: Excellent presentation! 12:02:42 From Amos S To Everyone: Great presentation. 12:02:43 From Population Connection To Everyone: Survey: https://forms.gle/FxomiiHXirXvepqu6 Member Info: https://donate.populationconnection.org/a/donate?_ga=2.78927572.1716122922.1693242985-254379635.1691165720&_gl=1*1r7mtf9*_ga*MjU0Mzc5NjM1LjE2OTExNjU3MjA.*_ga_MLMFDC6TZP*MTY5MzMyOTE3My40OC4xLjE2OTMzMjk4MjEuNjAuMC4w